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Allanit und Dissakisit aus Trimouns

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Elisabeth K.:
Dissakisit ist korrekt.

loismin:
Hallo.

Das ist wieder so eine Gewissensfrage .
So wie die xx ausschauen würde ich sagen sind das Allanite ( Nur vom anschauen her ) !
Aber Gewissheit hat man da auch nur wenn es analytisch bestätigt ist .
Die meisten  die als Allanit- Dissakisit bezeichnet werden haben schon einen sichtbaren zonaren Aufbau mit braunen Zonen und eher rosafarbenen und gelblichbraunen Zonen !
Aber wie gesagt, wenn man Dissakisit draufschreibt sollte auch von der Analyse er Dissakisit drin sein .

Loismin

Uwe Kolitsch:
Hoshino, M., Kimata, M., Nishida, N., Shimizu, M. (2010): Dissakisite-(Ce) chemical composition: some implications for its origin. Phys. Chem. Minerals 37, 255-263.
       
Euhedral dissakisites from Trimouns dolomite mine, France, is compositionally zoned. Back-scattered electron (BSE) images reveal that each of the described dissakisite crystals has three distinct compositional zones: normal zoned core (Mg-rich), oscillatory zoned middle (Ca–Al-rich) and homogeneous rim (Fe–ΣREE-rich). The latter zone with Fe2+ > Mg corresponds to allanite-(Ce). Dissakisite-(Ce) also displays pronounced zoning in Fe/Mg which may suggest that the temperature of crystallization continuously decreased from core to rim. Despite a systematic increase in Fe/Mg of the dissakisite with an allanite rim, there is no monotonic decrease in the REE zoning: the normal zoned core and homogeneous rim are rich in La, Ce and Pr, but the relatively REE-poor oscillatory zoned middle is relatively abundant in Y, Sm and Gd. Discontinuous variation in REE content of the dissakisite, with the allanite rim may indicate a localized change in either the relative concentration of various ligands or pH of the crystallizing fluid. Observations under the polarizing microscope confirm that the different zones have simultaneous extinction. These chemical and optical observations suggest that epitaxial crystallization of dissakisite, from Trimouns, passes through three formation stages. The ternary Fe2+–Mg2+–(Al + Fe)3+ diagram illustrates that in general dissakisite can be classified into two groups, (Al + Fe)3+-rich and an Mg-rich; dissakisite from Trimouns belongs to the former group. Chondrite-normalized REE patterns of dissakisites from Trimouns are similar to those of allanites formed by hydrothermal fluids. In conclusion, it is clear from the above two geochemical characteristics that dissakisites from Trimouns are of (Al + Fe)3+-type, and were derived from hydrothermal fluids.


Hoshino, M., Kimata, M., Nishida, N., Shimizu, M. (2008): Crystal chemical significance of chemical zoning in dissakisite-(Ce). Phys. Chem. Minerals 35, 59-70.         

Dissakisites from Trimouns dolomite mine, France, have two kinds of single crystals: chemical-zoned and homogeneous types. Back-scattered electron microprobe (BSE) images of these dissakisites reveal both Ca-Al rich dark zones and Fe-ΣREE rich bright zones. Crystal structures of three dark and two bright zones in a chemical-zoned dissakisite and of a homogeneous zone in unzoned dissakisite were refined to individual R indices (about 3.0–5.0%) based on 1400 observed [׀F0׀ > 4σF0] reflections measured with MoKα X-radiation using single crystal diffractometer. The differences in brightness between their BSE images arise from those in coupled substitutions of the elements occupying A2 and M3 sites. The main reason for these differences is that ten-coordinated A2 polyhedra and M3 octahedra are directly linked through their shared edge, which creates a great potential for making this coupled substitution. This zoning indicates that formation of the whole zoned crystal, where each zone could be grown steadily with its crystallographic axes mutually parallel to each other, may be identified as autoepitaxy.

loismin:
Hallo Uwe,
Wäre halt noch schön, wenn du für die ,die nicht so gut englisch können ein paar erklärende deutsche Sätze anfügen würdest !

Gruß
Loismin

heli:
Hallo Lois,

gib den Text in den Google-Übersetzer. Die Übersetzung ist verständlich.

LG
Helmut

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